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Live ZetaTalk Chat on Mar 23, 2002

Session Start: Sat Mar 23 15:53:29 2002
-IQx- Welcome to ZetaTalk - http://www.zetatalk.com - Enjoy Your Stay
(NancyL) Just send the SHORT agenda to Gerard and Jurian.
(NancyL) Falong Gong in China, reasons for the uproar, etc.
(Zod) Greetings. Nancy how was the radio show
(NancyL) The Lou Gentile radio show Thurs night was BIG, surprisingly. Got calls from Ontario to Texas, and was on FM radio as well as several web casters.
(NancyL) They have an archive, which I've pointed to from my (new) media page (link off the ZetaTalk home page) but seem to be behind on getting streaming audio up, so may take a few weeks.
(Zod) The links to the archive does not work yet
(NancyL) IQx, Robert, who has the planetxvideo.com site, is impressed by YOUR site.
(Zod) Anyone here taped it?
(IQx) I'm pleased Nancy, thank you
(Bob) What is the URL?
(IQx) Hopefully I will expand and complete it in the near future - Your words gave me a boost
(veCil) Yeah?
(IQx) Bob : http://iqx.t35.com - The site is down at this moment
(NancyL) Short notice, I only had a day or so. Out of Harrisburg, PA, which is also serviced by my alpha ISP site for ZetaTalk.com. PA Online, good service, good people.
(PottM) Well session is supposed to be starting but I got to go.
(Bob) Thanks!
(Torbj) A thought about this "kväve" thing up here in the north... maybe the El Nino carying it up from the ]resent eruptions in Kongo, I think it was?
(NancyL) IQx he was very impressed! Robert is trying to get onto major TV media, and who knows! He surprised me coming from behind as he did, after so many months of struggle.
(IQx) NancyL: thanks, if anything, I will email him a few words also
(IQx) NancyL: who should be given credit for all this is YOU, and the Zetas accordingly
(NancyL) I've been ignorning sci.astro the past couple weeks. Concentrating on clearing my deck. Spring cleaning and reducing my workload. SOMETHING is about to happen, the next shoe. I want to add my OWN question to the queue, tonight, on that.
(IQx) NancyL: absolutely, lower your workload and make sure you leave time and effort for your own self
(NancyL) Agenda: 1. Falon Gong, what is behind this and why the resentment in China, and 2. what is the next shoe that is about to drop.
(Canuck) Jim is that you?
(Redd) Hiya Cass
(Redd) c'est moi ;)
(Canuck) You're looking xtra redd today
(Dan33) Could we ask what political and economic model best serves STO?
(Canuck) Hi steveH
(Bob) Not familiar w/Falon Gong...
(NancyL) IQx, Robert is not stingy in his credits, by any means.
(veCil) I don't wanna be declared as stupid, but, what is the Falon Gong?
(Redd) Someone stole "Red" :\ hehe oh well
(IQx) NancyL: I believe thats a big minus
(NancyL) Dan33 Q added, as 3. what political and ceonomic model best serves STO. Good Q
(Gerard) Falung Gong is a chinese believe system...
(IQx) NancyL: his video may be an introduction, but the mass who will become interested will surely be directed to ZT - which is ofcourse your effort =)
(Karen1) May I ask who is this Robert you speak of
(IQx) Karen1: Robert, who has the planetxvideo.com site
(Karen1) Oh, thankyou
(veCil) And what does this believe system contain?
(IQx) - ZetaTalk Session - will Officially Start in Approximately 30 Seconds
(Bob) Gerard: like a type of religion?
(NancyL) Karen, look at http://planetxvideo.com
(Gerard) Not exactly ... altough it has influences from Taoism, and Budhism but they talk about peace etc..
(NancyL) OK, going to start, with Agenda Item 1.
(NancyL) FALON GONG
(NancyL) 1. What is behind the massive movement of Falun Gong in China?
(veCil) And what is so special about it to dedicate an agenda to falun gong?
(NancyL) ZT: Communism in China repressed several elements present in normal human society.
(NancyL) ZT: They purged intellectuals, glorifying the farmer over the historian and scientist.
(NancyL) ZT: They repressed religion, putting Communism forth as the only religion allowed.
(NancyL) ZT: The goal was to have a totally focused populace, such that only the state, and working as a producer for the state, would be tolerated in the eyes of the common man.
(NancyL) ZT: But like all repressive regimes, they failed to satisfy or leave allowances for the mind of man, seeking to address what they sense, but could not see.
(NancyL) ZT: The thugs running the Communist regime sought to destroy the elite they could not join, the University intellectuals, creative individuals, and in their opportunity to have jealousy prevail, killed thousands and threatened untold others.
(NancyL) ZT: In their desire to be worshipped as saviors, as idols, they destroyed religion and the sense of mankind that the physical is not ALL there is.
(NancyL) ZT: But in their stupidity, the heavy handedness of the thug, they assumed that by preventing eyes from looking elsewhere, and thoughts from roving, they would have eyes and minds pointed in adoration toward THEM, but in this they were naive.
(NancyL) ZT: The intellectuals of China went underground, learned to limit their discussions among like kind, and went overseas and to other countries in many cases, but did not desist or die.
(NancyL) ZT: And religion, the reaching out of the soul for the unseen and unprovable, but sensed, likewise hardly went away.
(Le-Renard) To the Zetas, did you implated that thing on me?
(NancyL) ZT: In quiet households, traditions and discussions remained, cautious but steadfast.
(Gerard) Renard: please.. not during a answer that is given see topic
(NancyL) ZT: Where little is heard from China in the UFO community, this hardly means that sightings and contactees are nil there.
(Le-Renard) Oh I see heh, Ok
(NancyL) ZT: China is HUGE, the population IMMENSE, and the people bright and hard working, long suffering and tenacious.
(Le-Renard) Can I ask something?
(NancyL) ZT: So what has happened, outside the view of western man and the nightly news on CNN?
(NancyL) ZT: Sightings, and contacts made so broadly that the common man and woman KNOW about the alien presence more certainly than in western civilizations!
(NancyL) ZT: CNN does not spread knowledge of the alien presence, which can be a knowledge spread village to village, household to household, and in the farm fields, far from those who would control the mind of China, in discussion during the day.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, China is more advanced in knowledge about the alien presence, as few households do NOT know of someone, a friend or neighbor, who has had an experience.
(NancyL) ZT: The Falon Gong movement had a resonance with these people, such that they recognized OTHERS who had similar experiences, and joined.
(Gerard) A netsplit just happened ... maybe we have to wait until they return ?
(NancyL) ZT: The message was simply - man was not alone, the alien presence was real, change was at hand, and a man was not a captive of his government, was free.
(Gerard) Okay they are on the return ... better :)
(NancyL) ZT: This was an immense threat to the Communist elite in control, so they thought, of China.
(NancyL) ZT: Falon Gong advocates were tortured, killed, imprisoned, and treated worse than criminals for nothing more than a desire to have a healthy lifestyle and a simple viewpoint.
(Le-Renard) Why don't we better discuss about the still "invisible" Planet X ?
(NancyL) ZT: The over-reaction of the Chinese government to this movement SHOWS the threat free thinking and an open heart bear to them.
(NancyL) ZT: This is, to a minor degree, what the western world presents to contactees and those who would be free of government restraints.
(Gerard) Lenard: it's not a agenda point of today ... that's why
(NancyL) ZT: If 50% of the US population or better feel the alien presence is real, then why the intense debunking that goes on?
(NancyL) ZT: If mothers with babes in their arms are shot dead by the FBI, because of the threat of non-payment of taxes to the US Government, then how free are US citizens to speak or think freely?
(NancyL) ZT: Falon Gong is in China, but the heavy hand of the Chinese government is not unique. Look about you and you will see a similar heavy hand hovering above YOU!
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Dan33) Was religion (in general) formed to instill morals in the people?
(Torbj) Through television!
(Torbj) You are controlled by that media1
(NancyL) Dan33 ZT: What is termed Religion is all aspects of human society that are a belief, without a physical basis.
(Bob) Why are the Chinese more in contact than here in US?
(NancyL) ZT: Not formed by man, but a term to explain this phenomena.
(NancyL) End ZT to Dan33.
(NancyL) ZT to Bob: The Chinese people are intelligent, patient, and tend to business regardless of health problems, starvation, weather problems, or the rigidity of their governments.
(NancyL) ZT: They are thus very ready for yet another intrusion, the alien presense.
(NancyL) ZT: They handle this well, like all other burdens they must bear, stoically.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, as contactees, they proved to be ideal, and when giving The Call got a proportionate response.
(NancyL) ZT: Those contactees who would have their life destroyed, are given a light response. Those who can handle it, a broad or intense response.
(Torbj) If the chinese government freely gave a TV set to every Chinese family... they could get their way!
(NancyL) ZT: The Chinese people have proved a group that can handle it, and thus were given an appropriate response.
(NancyL) End ZT to Bob.
(Cool007) NancyL : ZT tell us that the aliens are evil, but I wrote in many documents the opposite - with aliens comes progress and good ages.
(Bob) Wow thanks
(Canuck) So...I guess that means that Americans and Canadians can't handle it so well?
(NancyL) Cool, ZT does not say aliens are evil :-).
(NancyL) I personally have always been impressed with the Chinese people, those I've known.
(NancyL) OK, onto Q2.
(NancyL) My Q: 2002 Pause
(NancyL) 2. SOMETHING is about to happen, the next shoe, as sensed by several people. What is about to happen?
(Cool007) NancyL : but ZT said that they enslave human race
(Le-Renard) I was disconnected
(NancyL) ZT: Nancy senses a change in the wind, the other shoe about to drop, as she says.
(Le-Renard) Well.. what about Planet X ?
(Le-Renard) Why is still "invisible"?
(Canuck) Give it a break, Renard
(Torbj) Shut up, Le
(Le-Renard) What's the problem? I just wish to know
(NancyL) ZT: She has not felt impelled to argue on sci.astro aggressively, sensing that something large will put the debunkers, never convinced and always arguing against a small part of the evidence, not the whole, into shock.
(Gerard) Le_Renard: hush ... it's not in today's agenda .. so leave it please.
(NancyL) ZT: She is concentrating on spring cleaning, delegating her workload to allow for SOMETHING, and thus, knowing her subconscious is more aware than her conscious, wonders what this IS, that she is apparently aware of!
(Le-Renard) Due to Nancy's L. suggestion that it will pass by earth around May 2003, the planet should be easy to track by now.
(NancyL) ZT: There are several trends that will emerge, shortly.
(Le-Renard) I just wonder why it doesn't show up, so I came here for you to give me the answer.
(Gerard) Stop it now or I will kick you Renard... It's not in the agenda of today and this is not sci.astro
(NancyL) ZT: The first is the cover-up, becoming so distressed that cracks are appearing with no mortar at hand to repair them.
(NancyL) ZT: If the inbound planet, Planet X, will soon start a zoom so rapid that it will be visible to amateurs in the night sky, with their equipment, by mid-2002, then what are they to say?
(NancyL) ZT: All explanations such as a new comet, a nova, or a new phenomena previously unknown to man, will only go so far.
(Le-Renard) That's if it's going to show up, which if it did, you'll more than rightly deserve all the credit Nancy.
(Le-Renard) But by now, there's no such visibility, neither proof
(Gerard) Renard: hush please
(Cool007) NancyL : so.. after the planet X 90% will die, other 10% will by enslave by the aliens..
(Gerard) Cool007: not during the answer
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, NASA and the observatories they control, which are to a greater extent than the man on the street realizes, essentially ALL observatories, are almost paralyzed in the way to proceed.
(S7L) Cool007: just read ZT, you're obviously mistaken.
(Cool007) Gerard Ok, sorry.
(Cool007) S7L already done
(Le-Renard) But what if the planet never shows up?
(NancyL) ZT: Various silly explanations, many of which will be contradictory, may emerge, but the contradictions and delays in explanation will clue the thinking man into realizing that a cover-up INDEED in effect. Not the result hoped for.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the next shoe re the cover-up is incompetence, conflicting explanations, and increasing cracks.
(NancyL) ZT: The second shoe to drop is climate and weather changes, increasing ocean warming and melting poles, and quakes striking in places not previously experiencing them, in the memory of man.
(NancyL) ZT: This is already rising alarm and open discussion on the streets, such that the nightly news has become irrelevant, and the man on the street senses that their leadership is NOT leading, but suppressing the truth.
(NancyL) ZT: The man on the street is looking for an explanation, but none is coming from the news, the government, the church, or anyone in authority.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, they go underground, talking to friends, who invariably have some sense of an inbound Planet X, and ZetaTalk, or similar information.
(NancyL) ZT: The result of this breaking away from the given authority, to self-thinking, is that the populace will start their own discussions, break into the news, and the establishment will become distressed.
(NancyL) ZT: So, a cover-up with cracks, and an establishment challenged by the man on the street, asking questions they are not prepared to address.
(NancyL) ZT: Third, comes an upsurge of interest in alternative news, Planet X sites such as ZetaTalk and others long researching this with clear thinking and a history of valid reporting.
(NancyL) ZT: These will be sought, and transmitted, and given support, where the establishment news is pushed aside.
(NancyL) ZT: This is the activity that Nancy senses around the corner, the groundswell from people sensing that their government is lying to them, the churches irrelevant, and the news suppressed such that only irrelevancies are reported.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, going into the cataclysms, those who have been pushed into the corners, given no validity by the establishment, will have their day, and be exhausted with the activity.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Dan33) Are there any physical or emotional changes to be felt by the populous in the upcoming months?
(Jan) What about the news in other parts of the world, normally reporting better that the US news? (Europe, Scandinavia)
(Gary) I would think everybody is about to be visited by economic problems too.
(Matt) This means social unrest...
(NoN) Are internet alternative news sites in danger from the establishment?
(NancyL) Dan33 ZT: Many will find relief, in that they have long sensed changes coming, without acknowledgment by the establishment.
(Torbj) The people in the "developed" countries are enslaved by the TV-sets ... is there ever going to be a "global-transmission" that's going to tell what's going on...or is it just going to be "here and there"?
(NancyL) ZT: For those who wish to deny, this will be a clue to proceed to SOLID denial, with spending available cash, and intense partying until the end.
(Le-Renard) Zetapal: What is your name?
(Le-Renard) Zeta : What is your name?
(Gerard) What can one do so that the real news will reach more folks?
(NancyL) ZT: For those who care for and worry about dependents, this will be a clue to take action, take those camping trips or purchase that houseboat, long planned but an expense deemed outside the reasonable.
(veCil) Is it true that praying can delay the date of the cataclysms? (I hope that refers to the agenda)? I read that in a prediction....
(NancyL) ZT: For those fearing the awakening of the populace, this will be a clue to retreat to their enclaves, soon to be protected by the military in the US, and elsewhere, unknown to the public or already protected by the military of the country.
(NancyL) ZT: End ZT to Dan33.
(Gerard) veCil: not related
(BillPrinceton) NoN had a good question about alternative news sites being harassed by the establishment
(NancyL) Jan ZT: For those in Europe or elsewhere, where news is not so suppressed, the trend will be primarily the appearance in the sky of an object, inbound, viewable by amateurs, moving, unexplained by the establishment.
(Le-Renard) ZT: Can you predict the future?
(Jurian) Sssh
(Sebn) And the past
(NancyL) ZT: To the degree that those populations can deal with the coming changes, discussions on the news will be allowed.
(NancyL) ZT: In countries where the population CANNOT be saved, such as in Indonesia or India, the news will be suppressed, utterly.
(NancyL) ZT: The elite feeling that any panic would be a spark to a firestorm, and thus feared.
(Jan) Who decides if those populations "can deal with it"? Is this the governments or the Zetas evaluation?
(Gerard) What could one do so that the real news will reach the common people?
(NancyL) ZT: In countries where news in general is suppressed, such as in the Muslim countries, news of a coming cataclysm will be discussed back alley or back room as today, and not become a source of panic under the heavy hand of control these populations expect.
(NancyL) End ZT to Jan.
(Aves) If the elite know about poleshift why they continue long-term investments? Pay for own lie own megadollars?
(NancyL) ZT to BillPrinceton: Alternative news sources have always been harassed, but have survived.
(NancyL) ZT: They are established routes that have never been suppressed, nor can they be.
(NancyL) ZT: Stomping on one creates another, or many others, so the establishment relies on the numbers.
(NancyL) ZT: If the majority of the working man watches approved nightly news, and plods along, then the establishment feels they can survive and co-exist with alternative news, although uneasily.
(NancyL) End ZT to BP.
(NancyL) Going to the Last Q3, due to time ...
(NancyL) Q3 posed by Dan33, as we had a light agenda ..
(NancyL) STO Communities
(NancyL) 3. What political and economic model best serves STO. Good Q
(NancyL) ZT: There are no human societies that exemplify the 4th Density spiritual STO community.
(NancyL) ZT: Human societies are, in the main, populated by the undecided.
(NancyL) ZT: This colors the social structure, inevitably.
(NancyL) ZT: Where Communism ascribed to a system where each gave according to his ability, and all were supported, this of course did not occur.
(NancyL) ZT: Corruption quickly gained the upper hand, black markets emerging, such that those ascribing to the original philosophy starved and were worked half to death.
(NancyL) ZT: Religions likewise, even if based on the philosophy that the weakest among them should be cared for, and all should give to the betterment of the group, fail.
(Le-Renard) Zetas: How's a common day in Zeta Reticuli ?
(veCil) Le Renard... shut up pls and read. Visitors from Within for example.
(NancyL) ZT: The Pope lives in splendor, gold and high ceilings everywhere, while those supporting this structure starve and are given edicts of sexual suppression that the pedophile priests hardly ascribe to.
(Torbj) Like yours....like a mirror
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, even in the average family, the STO 4th Density spiritual existence cannot proceed.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, other than read what we have described as OUR existence, we cannot point to a human culture, a human philosophy, as a case in point.
(NancyL) End ZT to Dan33, who asked this question. Followup?
(Le-Renard) Zetapal: Just a quick question, I hope not to get banned for this... Which is the most common element found on the lunar surface
(Le-Renard) Zeta : Just a quick question, I hope not to get banned for this... Which is the most common element found on the lunar surfac
(Dan33) Would a capitalist model work with a base that every individual was self sustainable?
(NancyL) Le-R not on the agenda, and kind of irrelevant to issues you are presented with today.
(Le-Renard) NancyL: I'm testing you, thats all.
(Matt) Lol
(Jeremy) Will there be Environmental control considerations in communities in aftertime.
(Jurian) We're not here for your tests.
(Jurian) And I think I asked you to be quiet?
(NancyL) ZT to Dan33: Capitalism views that greed benefits the whole, in that a man seeking to garner for himself will have a by-product for others.
(NoN) Dan33: how likely is it that this idea would evolve into something different than we have today? Not very.
(Torbj) Is there a risk for greed accounting in STO societies?.... This carrot for your two apples?
(NancyL) ZT: This on its face fails, as while supporting the greedy, who without hestiation step on the least of those among them to raise themselves up, creates and enhances ignoring the suffering of the neighbor.
(Jan) Nancy/ZT, is it fair to say that even those firmly STO will have had to learn how to operate in a mixed environment?
(NancyL) ZT: Those who espouse capitalism, saying that Capitalist nations are most successful, fail to count the suffering of the little man.
(Gerard) The Indians for what I read, the first where a transplant.. late 3th density.. but also got influenced through the years I think, undecided folks between them.
(NancyL) ZT: Success is not measured by the wealth and smugness of a few.
(Le-Renard) You people, can't you see this poor lady needs professional assistance? This is a CULT. She cannot prove any of her statements. Why do you blindly believe her?
(Grimzilla) Her statements are proving themselves.
(Grimzilla) She doesn't need to
(S7L) Le-Renard, we have our reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: Pollution, emotional deprivation, the dulling of the mind and heart of the man on the street - these are the byproducts of Capitolism.
(Cool007) NancyL : I wonder.. after the planet X 90% will die, other 10% will by enslaved by the aliens or what (thats my last question I think)
(Jurian) Le-Renard, you can read the log on the web later, bye
(SWB) Kick him
(Svnmn) Her statements are better reading than yours, Le Renard.
(NancyL) End ZT to .. whomever.
(Jurian) Gline is more effective than kick.
(S7L) Though that denies behind-the-scenes conversation
(NancyL) Cool, you've not read ZT, and SHOULD, you're ignorant here of what has already been said.
(Mike) Renard has attacked me before
(Karen1) Our own free will decision to be here
(Gerard) Cool007: those who will survive won't be enslaved
(Grimzilla) Unless it's by other humans
(Jurian) Mike: not just you.
(NancyL) OK, though the hour is done, I want to ask those present what THEY think the "other shoe" is, that is about to drop.
(Cool007) Gerard that's all I wanna know, 10x
(BillPrinceton) WW3?
(Grimzilla) Other shoe?
(SWB) Armageddon
(Karen1) I have been on edge looking for "something"
(S7L) Well, don't know. Been expecting stuff for sure
(Karen1) Listening
(Jurian) Heh, more Bush madness, obviously
(S7L) Just don't know what it is
(RobH) I hope its not more terrorism...
(Lebrasse) Aliens landing!
(Talkboy) Whatever it takes to distract--through terror, fear
(SteveH) Maybe another image soon
(veCil) I've got a flu so should better sleep now. Good night folks. See you next Sat. Bye.
(Kirk) http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/pfaf/ ......plants for a future, a very good website.
(Tizza) I am wondering about another large drop in the market around the corner..
(Lovestarr) The other shoe is the existence of PlanetX and it is heading this way.
(Gerard) Well I have some kind of feeling that it will be busy for me or so .. for some time now.
(NancyL) Bill, WW3 certainly seems likely due to Israel/Palestinian noise, but per the Z's won't happen.
(Kerne) ET presence.
(S7L) It's probably some kind of disaster, just don't know what
(Torbj) 9/4
(Matt) Yeah possible nuclear weapon usage
(Svnmn) Thanks for another great session, Nancy! I don't know about 'the other shoe', am wondering about NESARA.
(Jan) Nancy, I have no idea, but I share your viewpoints on "waiting for something" to end the discussions on magnitude etc
(Grimzilla) I have compiled a page about informing people about planet X, I would consider it an honor if you would take a look at it nancy.
(Redd2) Nancy, my thought is that the endangered populations will hear enough to begin mass migration that will be fought...
(NancyL) SWB, Armageddon? As in the end of the world? How does that differ from what will be happening in 2003?
(Talkboy) Multiple terror attacks against U.S. and more war
(Jurian) What's wrong with those people? Why do they need to cut/paste stuff?
(Lebrasse) US admitting Roswell?
(Grimzilla) No clue
(Aves) Economic war leading to economic nuclear winter...
(Jurian) NancyL: 2003 won't be the END of the world, it will be a new BEGINNING :-)
(S7L) Jurian: who knows, seems like worse case than just inability to use mouse.
(Tizza) On the nuke issue.. zetas said only one would be dropped... considering they did in WW2?
(NoN) I think an enormous, worldwide economic collapse is imminent. Japan it teetering. General Electric may be next.
(Okidok) Every doomsday cult have an Armageddon agenda
(NancyL) Nukes, more disasters, more Bush madness, all kind of in sync with the Z's answer.
(Sebn) Close session
(Mike) Agreed
(NancyL) Jan, you feel this too?
(Mike) Agree with NoN
(RobH) I feel it too, Nancy
(Gerard) Well since some time I have the feeling.. will get busy etc...
(S7L) Hmm I just got a deja vu :)
(Karen1) I have felt the need to speed up my planning
(Cool007) NancyL : I saw many possible maps about the cataclysms, and only your map was the most optimistic VS others
(RobH) Lull of some kind we are in now
(NancyL) Grimzilla, send me the URL.
(Svnmn) Anybody reading about NESARA - National Economic Stability And Recovery Act?
(SWB) Nancyl: I will send you me thoughts on the subject this evening.
(Canuck) I also have felt the urge to PREPARE
(Autumn) Societies are becoming unravelled. People don't know who to depend on and the govm't doesn't care
(Grimzilla) NancyL: it's www.WAGD.com stands for We're All Gonna Die, was around a long time before I found out about planet X, I just convereted it to something more useful.
(NancyL) Talkboy, I too think more terror attacks will occur against the US. Bin Laden, per the Z's, is NOT dead!
(NancyL) NoN, yes, economic collapse, to 25% of what is today, is the Z prediction, I too anticipating this.
(Jan) Nancy, for me it has been more a hope than a feel...
(RC) Nancy, does the approaching Planet X cause emotional disturbances to the human mind like heating of core?
(NancyL) Gerard, yes, like Jan, you have good instincts and I trust them.
(Lebrasse) Nancy! WHEN economic collapse? 2002?
(RobH) Some event to mask or bring about that collapse is emminent maybe
(Svnmn) Fred Bell says Bin Laden is doing coke in China...
(Talkboy) NancyL: Bush and friends NEED Bin Laden to strike again...in their own interest now
(Okidok) what is the latest news about Nibiru?
(Autumn) WHEN does everyone think that this economical collapse will occur.. gut feellings ?
(NancyL) RC, I think we are distressed by things scientist cannot measure, yes. This radio show said that, more than we can measure comes from the core, etc.
(Aves) All will be good. I know that the attitude creates the reality. The belief in war does it.
(Tizza) Autum : another terror attack would put far more pressusure on it wouldnt it?
(Gerard) The whole point is that it will be busy, people searching for the truth etc etc
(NancyL) Svnmn: If Bin Laden did Coke, in his condition (kidney problems) would hardly been alive.
(Autumn) Yes
(SteveH) Good radio show the other day Nancy, I think the host was a bit blown away with what you had to say
(NancyL) Z's say he will be announcing himself soon, and the netword hardly dead!
(Svnmn) Fred says the coke caused the kidney problems. On a radio show this past week...
(NancyL) Autumn, hard to know as the establishment is so determined to keep it HIGH.
(IQx) NancyL: can you please provide a more specific information on the Safe Place of 'New York' State ? You've given so little - a few more words, I would appreciate much
(Autumn) True, to keep themselves happy
(NancyL) SteveH, thanks, but he was willing, and I give him a big credit for that.
(Svnmn) Not that Fred Bell should be a Bin Laden expert, but he sure seemed to be in on a lot of rumors.
(RobH) I sense something BIG to distract the backyard guys from seeing or talking about the 12th BEFORE this summer.
(Gerard) I think a lot of follks who didn't take the news about the pole shift serious in the last 7 years will take it more serious soon
(RobH) They DO NOT like to be stymied like they are right now
(NancyL) Svnmn, supposedly, Bin Laden had a CIA death attack, poison, which ruined his kidneys. Most likely.
(Torbj) I think one thing that´s soon going to be talked about in the media is the deepgoing fish in the oceans leaving for better water.
(Tizza) Nancy : I guess we could anticipate that the gov would keep this afloat as long as possible but it must be taking a fearful amount of $$ to do this
(Jan) As to the erratic weather: Even though the weather service says it's all normal, it seems everybody talks about it. Can't take a cab without the driver starting on the weather these days...
(NancyL) RobH, what other than more terror attacks would be big enough to distract? Humm, good theory though.
(Jan) It seems like "the ordinary man" is well aware something is going on.
(NancyL) Well, thanks for all your thoughts, going to mull this over and appreciate it!
(SteveH) BC had 230 winter records broken last week
(RobH) Good point, it would have to be really big to do that
(Autumn) Our weathermen can not predict one day anymore... they just grin and act like nothing is happening.
(NancyL) Nancy signing off! Thanks all for inspiring great ZetaTalk. Good to have Dan33 (whomever) a good mind and heart, join us!
Session Close: Sat Mar 23 17:15:26 2002